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Dec. 3rd, 2005 | 11:11 am
posted by: lnhammer in wordsofonebeat

Here's the FAQ (Oft Asked Things) for wordsofonebeat as of 10-Jan-06.


What's asked:
  1. What's up with this place?
  2. Huh?
  3. Yes, but why?
  4. What's with all the verse?
  5. What are the rules? I mean, can I use a dash?
  6. How do you count past ten?

1. What's up with this place?

In this group, all posts must be in words of one beat. Words with two or more beats are bad words; in fact, they're so bad that most folk just can't read them, and you'll be asked what you meant to say.

2. Huh?

Take a close look at these words -- each has just one beat. That's what I mean.

3. Yes, but why?

It's a game, of course. You do it for the fun of it. The best thing is, when you pull off a post that has no bad words and yet it's full of grace, with not one phrase forced or stiff. It's hard to do, but when the words flow off the screen with the swoop and pace of speech, then you know you've done well. And that's fun.

Hint: The more you do it, it gets less hard. Don't feel shy if you feel your posts lack all grace. Jump in -- join the group and put up a new post. Or just clap or carp at what folks post. It's all good.

4. What's with all the verse?

As you might guess, a thread of talk back and forth can hard to keep up (all the more so when no one talks back -- nudge nudge). So from time to time, folks will take a well known verse or piece of prose, and put it in words of one beat. It's a set, small thing to do. If you can pull it off with the beat of the line and rhyme the same as the old work, that's some feat. And if you can give it the same grace and force -- that we clap. Loud and long. That's part of the game.

Some hints, for those who want to try their hand: Just as when you take a work from one tongue to the next, don't go word for word. The trick is to get a phrase with the same sense as the first, with the same grace, in words that are your own.

By the way, when you post verse, it'd be nice if you link to the source, the form with bad words, and tag the post with the one who wrote it -- their real name.

Here's a list of poets with works done here.

5. What are the rules? I mean, can I use a dash?

Ah. Well. We've talked this through for some time, and not all see things the same way. For the dash, to take one thing -- I am one of those who hold that if it's a dash that binds a phrase that acts on a noun, one that's there just to make it clear it's a phrase and each word does not each act on the noun, that it's fine. Some think it's a cheat. All sides say, tho', that a dash that binds a two-part noun is Right Out. That's just a bad word.

Words from strange tongues are not as hard to judge. If you use it when you talk out loud, you can use it here. Thus, you might get to use "sans."

Then there's words like "poem" or "hour" -- are they bad? In verse, they're said to have two voiced sounds slurred to one beat. Is that how they're said out loud? "Our" is for sure a good word -- is "hour" said the same way? This, too, we still hash out.

Feel free to jump in and add your two cents. Or three. Or ten.

6. How do you count past ten?

Beats me. Not with grace, that's for sure. Ten more, and you can use one score and three, and the like, but that, too, is not so great. And there are tongues not our own with good words for counts in the teens, but that too seems a bit off. If you do find a good way, please, let us know.


---L.

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Paula Kate

To count

from: paulakate
date: Dec. 3rd, 2005 06:30 pm (UTC)
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Can't we count past ten thus: "two and ten", "three and ten" ...?

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Paula Kate

Re: To count

from: paulakate
date: Dec. 3rd, 2005 06:37 pm (UTC)
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When I was young (but three and ten)
The world was wide, no edge, no end.
The sky was blue and then grew dark
and new worlds spun and stars did spark
out of the night on left, on right
as far and far as eye could see
or mind could reach, at ten and three.

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Robin Zimmermann

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from: packbat
date: Dec. 4th, 2005 02:55 pm (UTC)
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A thought — might a link to this be put on the front page of the comm.? It would let those not here from the start find the FAQ ere they post.

(A link in the About field here might be good as well.)

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Robin Zimmermann

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from: packbat
date: Dec. 4th, 2005 03:09 pm (UTC)
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*looks at field*

Oh, it is. Whoops. I think I link on the front page should still be made, though.

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some guy named Larry

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from: lnhammer
date: Dec. 5th, 2005 03:42 pm (UTC)
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So -- on Asked Thing 6. It's been said, here and there, that tongues not the one we use here have words for counts that are good words -- such as the French for ten and one, and so on.

What do folks think of this? A good thing to do? A cheat? Too twee?

---L.

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kip_w

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from: kip_w
date: Dec. 5th, 2005 07:40 pm (UTC)
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I don't think it's bad. Let each look in his heart and see
if he
seem twee
ere I come back, with deux or three...

(oops)

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kip_w

(no post name)

from: kip_w
date: Dec. 5th, 2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Crossed from the Make Light blog:

I
Ah, in the bright, clear month of May
When fresh buds burst out from each tree true
Then in the heart that beats here,
My love burst forth from me too.

All in the bright, clear month of May
When all the birds sang in the sky,
Then I told her from my heart,
I longed for her to be nigh.

II
Out of my tears they go forth,
A bunch of flow'rs in bloom.
And all my sighs, they turn to
Fair birds that sing in gloom.

And if you should love me, my fair love,
I'll give to you the blooms, each one
And through your glass will you hear
The song the birds have spun.

VII
I bear no grudge, though my slain heart may be the judge
Weep for the love that's dead
Weep for the love that's dead
I bear no grudge. I bear no grudge.

Though you may shine, as with a hard gem's light
Still there's no gleam, in your heart's day-long night
I know it well...

I bear no grudge, though my slain heart may be the judge.
I saw you in last night's dreams
And saw that in your soul, no light streams
And saw the snake that grips and eats your heart,
I saw, my love, how sad and lost thou art.
I bear no grudge, I bear no grudge.

XI
A young man loves a fair lass,
Who picks out a man -- not him --
But that man makes his own choice
And this makes the fair maid grim.

The maid is vexed and goes to
The next man who comes her way
And with this one she'll stay now
The young man has naught to say.

This is a tale that's so old
Yet each time it haps, it's new
And for the man who's shut out,
It breaks his heart in two!

(From "Verse Man's Love," first penned auf Deutsch and set as songs. I might do more some time, but I have work to put off.)

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some guy named Larry

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from: lnhammer
date: Dec. 5th, 2005 10:41 pm (UTC)
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I should know this, should I not. This is not from the songs set by Carl Orff, I take it -- not so old as that.

---L.

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subdee

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from: sub_divided
date: Dec. 6th, 2005 04:55 am (UTC)
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For things more than ten, can't we use times? A thing times itself, I mean, like "squared" or "to the third". I know this sounds weird for most numbers, but "10 squared" should not be too out of place.

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subdee

(no post name)

from: sub_divided
date: Dec. 6th, 2005 04:57 am (UTC)
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Ugh, "times its own self" or "a thing times that thing again." I suck at this.

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subdee

(no post name)

from: sub_divided
date: Dec. 6th, 2005 04:57 am (UTC)
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*points up* Case in point.

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some guy named Larry

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from: lnhammer
date: Dec. 6th, 2005 02:17 pm (UTC)
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Well, for ten squared, I tend to say five score -- but then, that fits more with the sort of verse I tend to work with. But yes, "times" could be used.

By the way, I was in that field in school, that you are. Great fun.

---L.

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Patrick Nielsen Hayden

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from: pnh
date: Dec. 16th, 2005 02:55 am (UTC)
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I like this group, but there is a word near the top of the front page, on the bar to the left, that none of us can read.

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some guy named Larry

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from: lnhammer
date: Dec. 16th, 2005 02:37 pm (UTC)
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I know, but I can't fix it while it's a free group LJ. All the rest, I can change, but not that one. Dang it.

---L.

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some guy named Larry

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from: lnhammer
date: Dec. 16th, 2005 11:09 pm (UTC)
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When it's laid out this way, I should say.

---L.

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